Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is the top health official in the Trump Administration. He had a “eye-opening talk” with the head of Veterans Affairs, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, regarding the potential therapeutic benefits of psychedelic medicines. The VA chief plans to push Congress to act on this issue.
VA Secretary Doug Collins is a former Republican Congressman who said in an interview posted on The Shawn Ryan Show this week that, while Congress examines access pathways, he would be open to vouchers covering the cost of psychedelic treatment for veterans that receive their services elsewhere.
Collins said that VA is already conducting clinical trials on the use of psychedelics to treat veterans suffering from post-traumatic disorder (PTSD) or traumatic brain injuries (TBI). The initial results indicate it “works,” and “tremendous changes” are occurring among the participants.
Kennedy, secretary of health and human service, and the secretary “met in my office just two weeks ago to discuss this issue.” They also discussed how to overcome the bureaucratic and regulatory barriers that prevent funds from being released to help support access to psychedelics.
The VA can’t offer marijuana as an alternative treatment because of current laws.
“You’ve had a lot of congressmen say, ‘We’re not gonna do that. We’re gonna keep Where it is The Controlled Substances Act (CSA) says “and so on.” “And then It binds Us a little bit.”
Asked for details about his conversation with the HHS secretary, Collins said it was “eye-opening because, of course he is very ‘Make America Healthy Again—getting the food additives out, getting those kind of stuff.”
Kennedy told the reporter that they talked about the authority HHS and agencies like the Food and Drug Administration have to change psychedelics policies. He also said it was “really fascinating” to get Kennedy’s take on this issue. Kennedy had spoken frequently of the topic during his presidential campaign in 2024, before he became part of the Trump Administration.
Kennedy explained to the VA official, that because he had a history of heroin addiction in his early years, he is not comfortable using psychedelics. Then he explained to the VA official that his child, a member of Kennedy’s family, was a person who used psychedelics and it changed their life.
Kennedy told Collins that he realized “this is working” for his child, because “I actually see it happening and see it work…in my own flesh and blood,” the VA secretary said.
Collins stated that he was excited to see that someone is sensitive about the issues surrounding medication, but still believes in this new alternative treatment.
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Collins, the host of the show, also suggested that vouchers could be provided by the federal government to allow people access to psychedelic therapy while the current law restricts the use. Collins believes “it is a possible.”
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Collins stated that “as far as administrative steps next, Collins said”You can also find out more about the following: First of all, we are What we’re gonna do, is collect more data, from the various research programs on psychedelics that VA facilitates. We will also determine whether “there are any possibilities to expand.”
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Collins stated that if there were regulatory obstacles that VA could not overcome independently to investigate the treatment options, then he would go to Congress and say, “Look these are things I need to change.”
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VA announced separately in December that they will provide $1.5 million to fund a study on the effectiveness of MDMA assisted therapy for veterans suffering from PTSD or alcohol abuse disorder.
Rachel Yehuda was the Director of Mental Health at VA’s James J. Peters Veterans Affairs Medical Center. The agency also highlighted a first study it funded, which produced “stunning, robust results” from its very first MDMA clinical trial.
Yehuda, who is a member of the VA’s Board of Directors, said that on Monday she had been eager to hear more from the VA’s new secretary about his views on psychedelics. On the new podcast he acknowledged the work Yehuda and her co-workers have undertaken on this topic.
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— Rachel Yehuda (@RachelYehuda) March 31, 2025
Shereef Enahal, the former VA under secretary for health in January said it was “very encouraging”, that Trumps choice to make Kennedy head of U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has supported reform of psychedelics. Elnahal had hoped to collaborate with Kennedy on this matter if he was to remain in office for the following administration. However, that did not happen.
The advocates also want to know how Collins will handle the marijuana issues within VA. VA has traditionally resisted efforts by Congress to change rules regarding cannabis research or to authorize government doctors to recommend medical marijuana to veterans living in states where it is legal.
The official has a prior record of voting against medical cannabis access for military veterans during his time in Congress.
Separately, an GOP congressman recently hailed the Department of Defense’s (DOD) allocation of nearly $10,000,000 in funding to support research on the potential therapeutic effects of MDMA among active-duty members of the military.
One Republican congressman also expressed optimism that psychedelics will be a priority for reform in the Trump administration. The Republican said the efforts of the Trump Administration to cut federal spending and reduce the workforce would give the agencies the “spines they need” to deal with such complex problems.
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